So I think we have finally found the right car for us and it's a Honda Odyssey minivan. But it's the pimp daddy of vans. It has everything you could possibly have on a van. A dvd for my son, navigation for my husband (imagine never being lost again...ok, it's for me), auto doors, run flat tires, a hidden rotating lazy susan for storage, etc. The works. The only bad thing is the color...black. It's so hot here that black cars almost unheard of. But on a lighter note the interior is tan so maybe that will help. We will go tomorrow to talk numbers and see if our numbers match up with theirs. Wish us luck!